IMPORTANT: Board division Poll, please vote!

General topics (e.g. suggestions) about the forum and website. No bug reports or feature requests, please use the seperate forum for those instead.

Which board division do you prefer?

Option 1
7
58%
Option 2
2
17%
Neither one, leave as is and keep the projects module
2
17%
Neither one, other reason (please post reason as reply)
1
8%
 
Total votes : 12

Re: IMPORTANT: Board division Poll, please vote!

Postby Riton » Sat 9. Jun 2012, 10:02

I did not vote because I did not understand the difference ...
for me it is not very different and very important step.
Like many people, I find the project section not clear visually, and not very practical.
for the rest I think it's great.
I also think that language is a problem.
I doing a big work in France on the French forum "Racingfr" to help people. because the language is a problem.
I think that with this help, all the French who have a simulator and use XSIM Thanks to me and other who have also followed.
I think there are other more important problems.
Communication.
technical support.
language.
coordinate work and with the help of the moderators for each section (for example)
For translations, I'm not the best, yet I have helped with a little help: the translation of such section USO with friends.
it's on it are certainly people can easily make translations.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Board division Poll, please vote!

Postby tonquites » Sat 9. Jun 2012, 17:33

motiondave wrote:For website design and translation, is there an option to set up the site so as we can select a language? Say from a list a the top? I do recall seeing it done on some sites. Not simulator related though.


@ Motiondave,
I was also thinking it would be great to have the possibility to choose the language from the top of the site. The passion for building simulators do not choose language, this passion is at the heart of many in many places of this world, they know English or not.

@ Tfou57,
An interesting test we are doing this, the test is to put the messages in English and in original language they were written.

In my case I use the translator of Google Chrome, I understand more clearly the message that Tfou57 wrote in French. French> Portuguese is much better than French> English> Portuguese. I am not against English with primary language, but we have to think of alternative ways for people who do not speak English and is dependent on the google translator.

The worst problem that I face are the wrong words written in English, these words written wrong in the middle of the sentence are not translated and sometimes, leave sentences entirely meaningless.

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Portuguese version


@ motiondave,
Eu também estava pensando nisso, seria ótimo termos a possibilidade de escolher o idioma na parte superior do site.
A paixão pela construção de simuladores não escolhe idioma, esta paixão está no coração de muitos em muitos lugares deste mundo, sabendo eles inglês, ou não.

@ Tfou57,
Um teste interessante este que nós estamos fazendo, é o teste de se colocar as mensagens em inglês e na língua original com que foram escritas.

No meu caso que uso o tradutor do Google Chrome, eu entendo muito mais claramente a mensagem que o Tfou57 escreveu em francês. Francês > Português é muito melhor do que Francês > Inglês > Português. Não sou contra o inglês com idioma principal, mas temos que pensar em formas alternativas para as pessoas que não dominam o inglês e fica na dependência do google tradutor.

O pior problema que eu enfrento são as palavras escritas erradas em inglês, estas palavras escritas erradas no meio da frase não são traduzidas e às vezes, deixam a frases totalmente sem sentido.

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Re: IMPORTANT: Board division Poll, please vote!

Postby Tfou57 » Sat 9. Jun 2012, 23:13

Post traduit par Google en anglais
@ Tonquites
I'm glad you understand the meaning of my request for the content of X-Sim forums.
The text of the post is understandable when it is written in the mother tongue of X-Simmer
I propose that the approval of all the contents of posts are written in 2 ways depending on the language spoken and written courarement

Case 1: The X-Simmer speaks and writes fluent English
The post that is written in English:
- The X-Simers English speakers will interact easily
(100% comprehension of the post)
- The X-Simmers may result in non-English Google
(75% comprehension of the post)

2nd: (My case!) The X-Simmer not speak and does not write English fluently
The post is written in two languages:
* The first top part, the post which has been translated into English by Google
* Second part, after the English text, the text of the post in the mother tongue of X-Simmer. Of course the beginning of this second part begins with the clear designation of the language used to enable efficient translation by Google
a) - X-Simmers English speakers will have the option to read the post
* Be decrypted part of the post previously translated into English by the issuer's post
* Either translate the second part of the post in English via Google
The possibility of a post translated by two different methods will sometimes make a clarification of some passage of post
(100% comprehension of the post)
b) - X-Simmers may result in non-English Google
(75% comprehension of the post for all X-Simmer using a language other than the issuer of the post)
(100% comprehension of post-Simmer for X of the same nationality as the issuer of the post)
I also propose that in the profile shown at the left post, the language used in the second half of the posts in case of an X-Simmer non-English

My goal is that everyone will understand better the forum and thus the exchange of information on simulators or technical assistance to program X-Sim is richer.
Greetings to all!
Long live X-Sim3

Post en français
@tonquites
Je suis content que tu comprends, le sens de ma demande des contenus des forums X-Sim.
Le texte du post est compréhensible quand il est écrit dans la langue maternelle du X-Simmer
Je propose à l'approbation de tous que le contenu des posts soient rédigés de 2 façons selon la langue courarement parlée et écrite

1er cas: Le X-Simmer parle et écrit couramment l'anglais
Le post est rédigé que en anglais :
- Les X-Simers Anglophones dialogueront très facilement
( 100% de compréhension du post)
- Les X-Simmers non anglophones pourront traduire par Google
( 75% de compréhension du post)

2ème:(Mon cas ! ) Le X-Simmer ne parle pas et n'écrit pas couramment l'anglais
Le post est rédigé dans 2 langues:
* 1ère partie haute, le post qui a été traduit en anglais par Google
* Seconde partie, après le texte en anglais, le texte du post dans la langue maternelle du X-Simmer. Bien sûr le début de cette seconde partie débutera par la désignation claire de la langue utilisée afin de permettre une traduction efficace par Google
a)- Les X-Simmers Anglophones auront le choix pour lire le post
* soit déchiffrés la partie du post précédemment traduit en anglais par l'émetteur du post
* soit traduire la seconde partie du post en anglais via Google
Cette possibilité d'avoir un post traduit par 2 méthodes différentes va parfois apporter un éclaircissement de certains passage de post
( 100% de compréhension du post)
b)- Les X-Simmers non anglophones pourront traduire par Google
( 75% de compréhension du post pour tous les X-Simmer utilisant une langue différente de l'émetteur du post)
( 100% de compréhension du post pour les X-Simmer de la même nationalité que l'émetteur du post)
Je propose également que dans le profil affiché à gauche du post ,la langue utilisée dans la seconde partie des posts dans le cas d'un X-Simmer non anglophone

Mon but est que tout le monde se comprendre mieux sur le forum et que de ce fait l'échange d'informations technique sur les simulateurs ou l'aide à la programmation d'X-Sim soit plus riches.
Salutations à tous !
Longue vie à X-Sim3
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Re: IMPORTANT: Board division Poll, please vote!

Postby Riton » Sat 9. Jun 2012, 23:33

Good idea!
bonne idée!
comme ça vous pourrez apprendre le Français ;)
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Re: IMPORTANT: Board division Poll, please vote!

Postby tonquites » Sun 10. Jun 2012, 00:14

@ Tfou57, :D
Excellent effort to improve communication.
Great Idea.

Although the lane, long live the X-SIM3, living our fun.

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@ Tfou57, :D
Excelente esforço para melhorar a comunicação.
Ótima Idéia.

Bora para pista, viva o "X-SIM3", viva nossa diversão.

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Re: IMPORTANT: Board division Poll, please vote!

Postby motiondave » Sun 10. Jun 2012, 00:57

Yeah! Beawdy Mate!
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Re: IMPORTANT: Board division Poll, please vote!

Postby value1 » Sun 10. Jun 2012, 22:22

What should be changed in my opinion is that a new post to an existing thread does appear on the landing page. The way it is right now a new reply to an old topic is added to the end of the thread which might be hundreds of lines down the heap (just think of the famous "Tronic's AMC motor motion-controller with pwm/servo output" thread that started back in 2007. A new post would never be visible today).
Similarly posts about projects don't make it to the front page, which I find is a pity.
Can this behaviour of the "Recent posts" window be changed?
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Re: IMPORTANT: Board division Poll, please vote!

Postby sirnoname » Sun 10. Jun 2012, 23:13

Sorry to all above, we do not have any php programmers so this is not possible.
If a answer is correct or did help you for a solution, please use the solve button.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Board division Poll, please vote!

Postby floriske » Mon 11. Jun 2012, 09:32

Problem is that a lot of people have a lot of good ideas, but forget a few very important things:

• This is a (new) community set-up by privateers/volunteers, not a professional organization with tons of money to hire programmers etc.
• We need to take things one at a time and start with a simple and solid base, more features lead to more problems.
• This topic is about what to do- and what is possible "now" not about future features that might have to- or could be implemented

So please stick to the topic for now, language divisions etc. as mentioned simply aren't possible for *
Posting topics in 2 languages is a good idea if people who post in a different language are willing to e.g. use tags in their topic titles like: [FR] My first build or [GER] My 2dof wiper motor sim etc. but always add an english translation to it. (good way for them to learn english as well ;))

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Re: IMPORTANT: Board division Poll, please vote!

Postby Tfou57 » Mon 11. Jun 2012, 18:34

Traduit en Anglais par Google
@floriske
I voted "Neither one, other, reason (please post replies as Reason)" to report the problem of understanding the text I énnonçé in my previous posts.
Other than that I quite agree with the proposed Option 1 vote
Thank you for enabling X-Simmers of their posts published in two languages ​​to facilitate translation (English language and the X-Simmer)

Texte en Français
@floriske
J'ai voté "Neither one, other reason (please post reason as reply)" pour signaler le problème de compréhension du texte que j'ai énnonçé dans mes posts précédents.
A part cela je tout a fait d'accord sur l'Option1 proposé au vote
Merci de permettre aux X-Simmers de publiés leurs posts dans les 2 langues pour faciliter la traduction ( Anglais puis langue du X-Simmer )
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